reagan used to confuse movies with reality. whatever happened to the right wing, conservative notion of law and order? here you have these sheriffs and state legislatures around the country, certain red states, saying we will arrest federal law enforcement officers if they enforce the law. the people who sometimes put their lives on the line to protect us. and we're talking about in such disregard. this is what happened back in the '90s when the same crowd was talking about jack buddha thugs and it led, in some ways, toward oklahoma city. this could be heading towards frightening times with this sort of rhetoric. >> let me say this. this is the anniversary year of the march on washington, dr. martin luther king, who his holiday will be on monday when the president is inaugurated. in the famous speech he made, i have a dream, he referred to a governor whose lips drifts with the words of interposition and nullification. that is the words that we're hearing dripping from lips today. interposition and nullification. maybe when they